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First Arabic Speaker In North America

Carlito's Way

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Mexico
I bet Nassbean is happy because hes Moroccan...

Im sure quite a few Moroccans made it in the New World during the colonization, either as slaves or as converted Catholics working with the conquistadors
 

Carlito's Way

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Country
Mexico
I also wonder if he looked as black as those paintings given that there are no real description of him at all
I also knew that there were North Africans, at least in Mexico, because there are old census that have "blanco africanos" which translates to "white africans", and what other non-blacks are in Africa other than Caucasian Northern African
 

SavannahCatGiannis

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I bet Nassbean is happy because hes Moroccan...

Im sure quite a few Moroccans made it in the New World during the colonization, either as slaves or as converted Catholics working with the conquistadors
It was actually illegal to own a slave who was Muslim, so no, not many Moroccans or other groups ended up as slaves.

The few who did end up enslaved ended up being freed.

one example:


Morocco was the only country at the time to recognize the USA’s Declaration of Independence. May be why they had that deal, not sure.

But also, most African Muslims were well educated so that made them harder to keep as slaves.
 

AlbertWesker

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I also wonder if he looked as black as those paintings given that there are no real description of him at all
I also knew that there were North Africans, at least in Mexico, because there are old census that have "blanco africanos" which translates to "white africans", and what other non-blacks are in Africa other than Caucasian Northern African
It was actually illegal to own a slave who was Muslim, so no, not many Moroccans or other groups ended up as slaves.

The few who did end up enslaved ended up being freed.

one example:


Morocco was the only country at the time to recognize the USA’s Declaration of Independence. May be why they had that deal, not sure.

But also, most African Muslims were well educated so that made them harder to keep as slaves.
I read America's first Muslims were Slaves. But dont know much of this, I will have to look deep into this, about the Muslims outside the Middle East and North Africa.
 

Carlito's Way

Well-known member
Country
Mexico
It was actually illegal to own a slave who was Muslim, so no, not many Moroccans or other groups ended up as slaves.

The few who did end up enslaved ended up being freed.

one example:


Morocco was the only country at the time to recognize the USA’s Declaration of Independence. May be why they had that deal, not sure.

But also, most African Muslims were well educated so that made them harder to keep as slaves.
so Muslims had special treatment? do you have any idea why? did Spain have a pact with Muslims in the old world about not enslaving them?
 

SavannahCatGiannis

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so Muslims had special treatment? do you have any idea why? did Spain have a pact with Muslims in the old world about not enslaving them?
I am not 100% sure but I think it had more to do with the fact that African Muslims tended to be more highly educated and literate so that made them harder to enslave.

Remember, it was a literate Muslim who kicked off the Haitian Revolution as well as other slave revolts in the Caribbean. Also, it was illegal in the Colonies/US to teach slaves how to read. It was to keep them enslaved.
 
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